What in tarnation?!

Post by **Sean** » Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:32 am

Here's a thread to express your surprise and/or anger over travesties like people using the name "Stoddard Falls" for the Baldy Waterslide.

I discovered another travesty on Instagram, where they're referring to the West Fork Road as the "Devil's Canyon Dam Truck Trail."

In this case, at least the road actually has some connection to Devil's Canyon. Still, the name is false and dumb, and people should know better. The Forest Service even has a page for the West Fork Road. And how on earth do you not see the name of the dam on the road gate?!

AW~ · Post by **AW~** » Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:08 am

Well, those infamous Colby secret waterfalls are back...now known as Hidden Swimming Holes.
https://www.thetravel.com/magical-swimm ... nal-forest
"Travelers can visit Pasadena to discover its landmarks and explore its rich nature. The Colby Canyon is located approximately 18 miles from Pasadena and is home to some of the best swimming holes in California.

Known as the Hidden Swimming Holes, they are perfect for hikers seeking an almost secret location to relax in an almost private area. However, to reach these swimming holes, travelers must be willing to cross rugged paths and have some hiking experience"

Also note #7 in the san gabes.."The Big Falls Trail is located in the San Gabriel Mountains near Arroyo Grande (approximately five miles). This trail is considered moderate, and hikers often take 2h30 to finish the hike, but they encounter many pleasant surprises along the way.

After the first mile, travelers will find the first swimming hole and encounter many more. According to people who have visited the place, the upper swimming hole is easy to access, while the lower ones are more challenging, as it involves small climbing"

Course Cedar Creek is listed...you though SD county..no, San Gabes. "Nestled within the San Gabriel Mountains, Cedar Creek is a magical swimming hole for families. Accessible via the Cedar Creek Trail from Azusa River Wilderness Park, the approximately 2-mile hike showcases scenic vistas of lush landscapes and cascading waters."

Post by **Sean** » Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:38 am

Haha, Luana Ferreira was clearly high when she wrote that article. I mean, when she lamely stole the ideas from other sites like this one.

David R · Post by **David R** » Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:06 pm

I hiked Cucamonga today and the parking for the Baldy Waterslide have reached peak Tik Tok, this area will soon have no parking signs all over the place.

Post by **Uncle Rico** » Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:57 am

But that IS a good pic of the Bridge to Nowhere.

You got to give Launa that.

Post by **Taco** » Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:28 am

You guys still read?

Girl Hiker · Post by **Girl Hiker** » Sat Aug 19, 2023 2:36 pm

I was at the Baldy Slide two weeks ago on a Wednesday. It started to get crowded after 12 pm.

It was my first time and really nice. But clearly lots of idiots who were unprepared, inexperienced and definitely wearing the wrong shoes.
To add, they were holding up the line for us experienced hikers waiting to get past the ropes.

Post by **Sean** » Sat Aug 19, 2023 4:15 pm

Taco wrote: ↑You guys still read?

I only read what AW links to.

Post by **Sean** » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:10 am

Good grief.

Post by **dima** » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:03 am

Hah. I didn't even do that. Is that the right location, though? I thought it was North of the crest?

David R · Post by **David R** » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:13 am

It looks like Sadie Hawkins has been superseded, this is what happens when you start to play around with names.

Post by **Sean** » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:33 am

dima wrote: ↑Hah. I didn't even do that. Is that the right location, though? I thought it was North of the crest?

It's not the right spot. Our young friend did it. I think he's playing a joke on me.

Post by **Sean** » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:35 am

David R wrote: ↑It looks like Sadie Hawkins has been superseded, this is what happens when you start to play around with names.

Funny how Sadie and Middle aren't even on OSM.

Post by **dima** » Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:15 pm

They COULD be. Do you want them to be? What's the reference for those names?

Post by **Sean** » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:01 pm

dima wrote: ↑They COULD be. Do you want them to be? What's the reference for those names?

Sure, they might as well be on OSM. They're very well established informal names, and they appear on Peakbagger and MapBuilder Topo. I don't know when people started calling the bumps by those names. It might predate the internet. "Middle Hawkins" is a natural reference to its location between Mt. Hawkins and South Hawkins, while "Sadie Hawkins" must refer to the "Sadie Hawkins Dance" events that have been taking place since the 1930s, named after a cartoon character.

Post by **HikeUp** » Tue Aug 29, 2023 8:35 pm

Sean wrote: ↑
dima wrote: ↑They COULD be. Do you want them to be? What's the reference for those names?
Sure, they might as well be on OSM. They're very well established informal names, and they appear on Peakbagger and MapBuilder Topo. I don't know when people started calling the bumps by those names. It might predate the internet. "Middle Hawkins" is a natural reference to its location between Mt. Hawkins and South Hawkins, while "Sadie Hawkins" must refer to the "Sadie Hawkins Dance" events that have been taking place since the 1930s, named after a cartoon character.

from: http://www.hundredpeaks.org/signatures/14e.htm

Location: Los Angeles County, California
Called "Middle Hawkins Mountain" on 1962 HPS List, to note its location between Mt. Hawkins and South Mt. Hawkins.
Presently a use-name only.
Peak was on the original 1946 HPS Peak List. Weldon Heald climbed this peak in 1939.

Nothing on Sadie though.

Here's my corgi named Sadie. We lost her a few years ago. Good doggie...

Post by **Sean** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:54 am

HikeUp wrote: ↑Nothing on Sadie though.

The name goes back to at least 1946 when a Sierra Club group climbed it on Sadie Hawkins Day.

Post by **Uncle Rico** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:38 am

That Sierra Club write-up is annoying.

And I don't understand the reference to the Boy Scout rule about changing your socks. What is that? I was a scout and never heard any sort of best-pratices about socks. Maybe I just never got the sock merit badge.

Post by **Sean** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:42 am

Uncle Rico wrote: ↑That Sierra Club write-up is annoying.

Haha, it's the text from an LA Times article by Glen Binford. I'm guessing he was associated with the Scouts.

HIKERS_CLIMB_PEAKS_OVERLOOKING (1).pdf: (357.79 KiB) Downloaded 262 times

Post by **Sean** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:17 am

Yay, thanks, Dima.

Nate U · Post by **Nate U** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:39 pm

Thats kind of incredible Neight Thousand is on OSM now!!!!!!! ?
Hiking with you guys is too much fun!

Nate U · Post by **Nate U** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:42 pm

I wonder who first added it to OSM? It wasn't me. Ranger Nick?!

Tom Kenney · Post by **Tom Kenney** » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:39 pm

Sean wrote: ↑I don't know when people started calling the bumps by those names. It might predate the internet.

Certainly before Internet. I knew those names when I was in Scouts, early to mid 1980s.

Post by **dima** » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:41 pm

Tom Kenney wrote: ↑
Sean wrote: ↑I don't know when people started calling the bumps by those names. It might predate the internet.
Certainly before Internet. I knew those names when I was in Scouts, early to mid 1980s.

OK. I will send the OSM verification police to you!

AW~ · Post by **AW~** » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:15 am

How about 2 sets of names one NPS and one NHPS...and NHPS may give a placeholder name. For example, NHPS Toilet Peak NPS South Hawkins. Do you want to visit a toilet or you want to enjoy the lower view?